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Diabetes, religion and politics?

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Well, I was taught to give thanks to God for all things. Good or bad. Bad things make us stronger by having to deal with them. Mother Theresa once said "God never gives us anything we can’t handle–I just wish he didn’t trust me so much!" :) I don’t look upon my diabetes as a punishment, more like a learning opportunity and a test of my faith as well. (A test I plan to pass!) So I thank God for my diabetes. As I battle it, and learn, I pass along to others what I’ve learned in the hopes I can help them overcome it as well….and hope that, in turn, they pass along what they’ve learned to others. — "If everyone had a horse, the country would be more stable-ized!" Posted via Active Low-Carber Forums, for Low-Carb & Atkins Diet Support http://forum.lowcarber.org  &  http://www.lowcarb.ca

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I had someone in one of my classes for social welfare state that ‘mental illness is possession by the devil.’  This was at a urban university in an upper level class.  I had to work with him on presentations about mental health issues.  It was not fun. c

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My own >nephew told me less than a year before his mother >died of MS that her disease was caused by her sins > This is absurd!

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Another way of looking at things along the same theme. The number of people that die every day from diabetes and diabetes-related complications exceeds that many times over those people that die from terrorism and wars. Now examine the level of spending that goes into research, support and medication for diabetes and how much is spent on research, arms manufacture and weapons for killing people. And we call this civilisation. There are all means of spinning and twisted logic to justify the national priorities for current spending levels and impending and completed wars. The greater threat to US security and the health of its people are not some defeated middle eastern despots, but their own US president and his pursuit of his private initiative to line his pockets from the oil he wants and the blood of the people that he kills to get it. There has been no other US president in my living memory that has ever been despised, caricatured as an imbecile and a despot by the rest of humanity outside the US than George W Bush. He conjures up images in the minds of people that was previously reserved for the  former USSR presidents at the height of the cold war.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> What do discussions about religion and/or politics > have to do with our diabetes? > Well, for me at least my belief in God and my > political views are closely tied to the diseases > that I, relatives and friends have. > Our politicians have a lot of control over money > for research and now they are trying to control > what may be used for that research. > Religious leaders attempt to control ALL people of > this country with THEIR agendas and thus adversely > effect research. I have heard some self appointed > religious leaders go so far as to claim our > diseases are brought about by our sins. My own > nephew told me less than a year before his mother > died of MS that her disease was caused by her sins > and if she were to repent with enough fervor the > blood of Christ would cure her in an instant. His > mother needed his love, not his condemnation and > preaching. > Also, once in awhile it is just plain entertaining > to discuss, debate and out-and-out argue about > something other than our diabetes. > So, in conclusion post off topic items > occasionally, mark it (OT) just so we can talk > about something other than our diabetes. If it is > plainly marked (OT) and you don’t care to enter > into the fray just pass over it. > I belong to another support group and they too are > very loving, just as we are here. The biggest > difference is that in that group we accept > everyone and do not try to change their religious > or political views; we simply accept everyone as > they are. Actually, I think most people in here > are equally accepting of others. > — > Of course that is just my opinion. I could be > wrong. > Chuck > "If you once forfeit the confidence of your fellow > citizens, you can never regain it. It is true that > you may fool all of the people some of the time; > you can even fool some of the people all of the > time; but you can’t fool all of the people all of > the time." > Abraham Lincoln

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> > My own >nephew told me less than a year before his mother >died of MS that her disease was caused by her sins > This is absurd!

I agree completely. This guy and his wife are home schooling all five of their kids. Their grandma tells me the oldest who is eleven can barely read at all. Also none of the kids have ever had one single immunization and none of them have ever been to a doctor. That sure is not the way those poor little kids parents were raised. I can’t help but wonder what makes a person become so radical like that. p.s. Love you nickname. — Of course that is just my opinion. I could be wrong. Chuck "If you once forfeit the confidence of your fellow citizens, you can never regain it. It is true that you may fool all of the people some of the time; you can even fool some of the people all of the time; but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time." Abraham Lincoln

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> My own >nephew told me less than a year before his mother >died of MS that her disease was caused by her sins

This is absurd!

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What do discussions about religion and/or politics have to do with our diabetes? Well, for me at least my belief in God and my political views are closely tied to the diseases that I, relatives and friends have. Our politicians have a lot of control over money for research and now they are trying to control what may be used for that research. Religious leaders attempt to control ALL people of this country with THEIR agendas and thus adversely effect research. I have heard some self appointed religious leaders go so far as to claim our diseases are brought about by our sins. My own nephew told me less than a year before his mother died of MS that her disease was caused by her sins and if she were to repent with enough fervor the blood of Christ would cure her in an instant. His mother needed his love, not his condemnation and preaching. Also, once in awhile it is just plain entertaining to discuss, debate and out-and-out argue about something other than our diabetes. So, in conclusion post off topic items occasionally, mark it (OT) just so we can talk about something other than our diabetes. If it is plainly marked (OT) and you don’t care to enter into the fray just pass over it. I belong to another support group and they too are very loving, just as we are here. The biggest difference is that in that group we accept everyone and do not try to change their religious or political views; we simply accept everyone as they are. Actually, I think most people in here are equally accepting of others. — Of course that is just my opinion. I could be wrong. Chuck "If you once forfeit the confidence of your fellow citizens, you can never regain it. It is true that you may fool all of the people some of the time; you can even fool some of the people all of the time; but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time." Abraham Lincoln

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