egg question
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Chest hair, maybe? <VBG> Budd – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Well, he’s bald so I can’t tell him it will make his hair shiney! > c
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> Well, he’s bald so I can’t tell him it will make his hair shiney! > c
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: Yes, I know they too have carbs… I know that many diabetics eat a lot of : eggs. I really love them. They make an easy meal. I am on Lipitor and my : chol has really gotten a lot better. Chol–155 Trigs–171 HDL–37 : LDL–84 Dr. will take a new panel in Aug. Just how careful are you all : in eating or not eating the eggs? So many times I have not eaten them : because I feel they just aren’t good for my chol. I could eat the darn : things every day and I would be very nice and very friendly..:) I do HAVE : to put one in every time I make a chef salad. I don’t seem to be able to : eat the salad without egg in it (plus my chicken..). Chickens make me very : happy… Bless Memory Talked about this with my endo, as I like to get an omelette for lunch in a restauant and gg ehite is not always available. He sid no problemwith once a week. I use the egg substitutes the rest of the time for breakfasts on days I don’t have to leave the house early. I make them into an omelette with lots of veggies, sometimes cheess and sometimes baco-bits all mixed in. This with a few Was crackers, perhapas a starwberry or two and my black decaf makes a super breakfast. Wendy Baker
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: My boyfriend (What other word can you use when 50 yrs. old? He’s hardly a : boy?) has high cholesterol and wouldn’t touch them for ages. The : information about diet here and my imporved well being have helped him to : see they aren’t the evil he thought they were. : c k Gentleman friend? Unless, of course, he is not a gentleman:-) Wendy Baker
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>> I eat a lot of eggs, (like two a day) and my cholesterol is NOT > high. They > satisfy my hunger and I like them. I read somewhere that eggs have > gotten > a bum rap as far as the amount of cholesterol they contain. Aside from
In a statistical analysis of huge amounts of data from the Harvard Health Professionals study, researchers claim to have determined that there is NO DIFFERENCE in heart disease deaths between those who eat no eggs and those who have more than ten per week if they are not diabetic. If they are diabetic, there conclusion was "we can’t tell whether it matters; we need more study" (In other words, they did see a difference, but it was smaller than the margin of error.)
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But did you read what it said about diabetics? Linda – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->OOOPS!!! >Forgot the link. . . <www.aeb.org> >Everyone tells me my memory is slipping. Myself, I don’t know . . .I >don’t remember. >Budd > I eat a lot of eggs, (like two a day) and my cholesterol is NOT high. They > satisfy my hunger and I like them. I read somewhere that eggs have gotten > a bum rap as far as the amount of cholesterol they contain. Aside from > eggs themselves, I have a belief about cholesterol that I would like to > express here. > First of all the link between blood cholesterol and diet has never been > really proven that well. The liver makes the cholesterol that is in the > blood. The link between high blood cholesterol and cardiovascular problems > is there, but there are other factors involved…. there is just not enough > we know about it, and the link between dietary cholesterol and blood > cholesterol is still fuzzy. > I have a friend who is a vegetarian and eats almost no dietary cholesterol. > The doctor just mentioned that hers is creeping up. > My father who is 90 and in good health, still drives, rides his bicycle > every day, digs a garden every year, shovels his own snow, etc. has had a > cholesterol level of over 300 for years and years. Other than high blood > cholesterol numbers, he is fine. The only time he feels sick is when the > doctor tries to make him take cholesterol lowering drugs. He has tried all > of them, and all give him severe muscle weakness and more. He absolutely > can’t take any of those drugs. His heart is in excellent shape and he > continues to be active. He hates pills of any kind, but recently began > taking a baby aspirin daily and a couple of vitamins. High cholesterol has > never harmed him. 90 is a good old age by anyones standards, and his > cholesterol has been over 300 for twenty years! > On the other hand, my mother, who ALWAYS had excellent cholesterol levels, > had a triple bypass and died at 82 of a heart attack. She was on her > second pacemaker and had had heart problems for several years before she > passed away. > So I think there is more to this than simply measuring ones blood > cholesterol or eating or not eating cholesterol containing foods. I am > going to keep on eating eggs. I think the whole cholesterol thing is bunk, > or at best partial knowledge. For me the diet enemy is carbohydrates. > Those I watch really well. I have to eat something, and eggs are easy, > satisfying, and don’t raise my blood glucose much. > Regards, > Evelyn
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> >I’m getting pretty thin on top, and although the hair >is disappearing, the shine is still very apparent! > From the hair, or the scalp? > g,d,rlh!
You shouldn’t ask! The scalp darnit! 
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>My boyfriend (What other word can you use when 50 yrs. old? He’s hardly a >boy?) has high cholesterol and wouldn’t touch them for ages. The >information about diet here and my imporved well being have helped him to >see they aren’t the evil he thought they were.
Hmm… I’ve wondered that before, too.. let’s see… manfriend doesn’t really work.. lol.. "partner" sounds ok… sort of.. good question.. Linda Join us in the Diabetic-Talk Chatroom on UnderNet /server irc.undernet.org — /join #Diabetic-Talk More info: http://www.diabetic-talk.org/
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>I’m getting pretty thin on top, and although the hair >is disappearing, the shine is still very apparent!
From the hair, or the scalp? g,d,rlh! Linda Join us in the Diabetic-Talk Chatroom on UnderNet /server irc.undernet.org — /join #Diabetic-Talk More info: http://www.diabetic-talk.org/
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This post not CC’d by email >n a statistical analysis of huge amounts of data from >the Harvard Health Professionals study, researchers >claim to have determined that there is NO DIFFERENCE >in heart disease deaths between those who eat no eggs >and those who have more than ten per week if they are >not diabetic. >If they are diabetic, there conclusion was "we can’t >tell whether it matters; we need more study" >(In other words, they did see a difference, but >it was smaller than the margin of error.)
G’day G’day Wesley, There was a study, perhaps it is the same one, where the researchers made similar comments about needing to study the eggs question specifically in relation to diabetics. They had good reason. An existing diagnosis of diabetes was grounds for exclusion from the trial. So, to put it simply the diabetics mentioned in their trial were those diagnosed during the study period. Most of can figure it out that at time of diagnosis blood glucose is not in control. As I see it eating eggs and not eating eggs both have risks. Firstly the risks associated with eggs. Popular literature tends to polarize issues, making eggs seem incredibly risky and without risk depending on who is writing. A common consensus view seems to be that only about 20% of cholesterol comes from dietary cholesterol intake and the rest is formed in the body. The actual percentage will obviously depend on diet. When first diagnosed I agonized of the ways high blood sugar damaged HDL’s ability to transport cholesterol back to the liver for disposal. As I saw it there wasn’t any reason to be complacent about the issues surrounding cholesterol handling for diabetics. That said I decided to look at all the places one could improve that handling. Here is how I tackled it. Eat some bitter greens eg endive, radicchio, dandelion to improve the flow of bile which is how waste cholesterol is excreted. Eat a diet high in taurine, an amino acid found in meat, fish, shellfish. Taurine and glycine are the two major aminos for making bile. Eat foods high in phytosterols eg avocado. Phytosterols are the active ingredient in yuppie margarines that block the reabsorption of cholesterol from the gut. Eat prawns etc where the cholesterol is slightly different from human cholesterol. The net effect seems to be to raise HDL, the stuff we want rather than LDL. Eat a diet high in soluble fibre. To see the COLLECTIVE effects of a diet that combines typical vegetarian approaches take a look at the post I made recently in the vegetarian thread. OK. So what is the risk of not eating eggs? The most obvious to me is if people don’t eat eggs they will eat something worse. Now how could that be? If people don’t eat eggs for breakfast the chances are high they will eat cereal and their bg will remain high. If they attempt to fudge around that issue by eating high cereal fibre breakfasts they might get around the high blood glucose problem. They might also make a very unpleasant discovery. Cereal fibre is great place to find allergens. Food intolerances push up the C-Reactive Protein CRP. Now things are not nice. Inflammation inflames the arteries, cholesterol attempt to repair the damage and it all gets nasty. Another subtle reason to eat eggs only applies if you eat free range eggs. The colours found in the yolks of free range eggs are the very ones diabetics need to protect the macular part of the eye which deals with fine detail vision. And eggs make them more bioavailable. The real blokes who don’t eat quiche may find those that do reading to them in the old age pensioner’s home. Frankly I’d rather have the independent part of that deal. BTW the spinach in the quiche also provides the vital zeaxanthin and lutein. Double whammy huh? My choice is to maintain a low A1c, staying in the 5% club. I can do that with and without eggs. So most mornings I have and egg free, high protein breakfast I have devised. On Saturdays I really do have a three egg omelette with salad after gym. Certainly omelettes are a great way to keep bg down. On Sundays I have a fist full of almonds and three dried apricots then off to Farmer’s market to have an ostrich patty. Best wishes, — Quentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / / "… and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin
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>My boyfriend (What other word can you use when 50 yrs. old? He’s hardly a >boy?) has high cholesterol and wouldn’t touch them for ages. The >information about diet here and my imporved well being have helped him to >see they aren’t the evil he thought they were. > Hmm… I’ve wondered that before, too.. let’s see… manfriend doesn’t > really work.. lol.. "partner" sounds ok… sort of..
My grandma who remarried in her 80′s always used the term beau. But that sounds kind of dated too. — Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/
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I like that one Linda – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I’ve decided to stick with calling him my sweetheart because that’s what he >is. Partner sounds too clinical to me. >c > >My boyfriend (What other word can you use when 50 yrs. old? He’s hardly >a > >boy?) has high cholesterol and wouldn’t touch them for ages. The > >information about diet here and my imporved well being have helped him to > >see they aren’t the evil he thought they were. > Hmm… I’ve wondered that before, too.. let’s see… manfriend doesn’t > really work.. lol.. "partner" sounds ok… sort of.. > good question.. > Linda > Join us in the Diabetic-Talk Chatroom on UnderNet > /server irc.undernet.org — /join #Diabetic-Talk > More info: http://www.diabetic-talk.org/
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Memory I have real eggs about once every two weeks, I had extremely high cholesterol and with lipitor I am 142. I dont know though if lipitor would stop the cholesterol from rising if I ate them everyday,. I do eat eggbeaters quite often and I make believe they are eggs,. I add some cheese and protein and it is an omelet to me. Loretta — In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism.
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I’ve decided to stick with calling him my sweetheart because that’s what he is. Partner sounds too clinical to me. c
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->My boyfriend (What other word can you use when 50 yrs. old? He’s hardly a >boy?) has high cholesterol and wouldn’t touch them for ages. The >information about diet here and my imporved well being have helped him to >see they aren’t the evil he thought they were. > Hmm… I’ve wondered that before, too.. let’s see… manfriend doesn’t > really work.. lol.. "partner" sounds ok… sort of.. > good question.. > Linda > Join us in the Diabetic-Talk Chatroom on UnderNet > /server irc.undernet.org — /join #Diabetic-Talk > More info: http://www.diabetic-talk.org/
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Well, he’s bald so I can’t tell him it will make his hair shiney! c
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Tell him they’re an ancient aphrodisiac. > That”l get (almost) any guy interested. > Budd > Excellent information Annette! (By the way, I’m glad you are able to keep > posting. You are an assest to this group.) I know when I have an egg > breakfast I’m not hungry for at least 41/2 hours. I usually eat small > amounts every two to three hours. My favorite quick supper in the sautee a > lot of veggies with protabella mushroom and then pour scrambled eggs over. > We get two meals from six eggs and I get now spikes. > My boyfriend (What other word can you use when 50 yrs. old? He’s hardly a > boy?) has high cholesterol and wouldn’t touch them for ages. The > information about diet here and my imporved well being have helped him to > see they aren’t the evil he thought they were. > c
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Tell him they’re an ancient aphrodisiac. That”l get (almost) any guy interested. Budd – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Excellent information Annette! (By the way, I’m glad you are able to keep > posting. You are an assest to this group.) I know when I have an egg > breakfast I’m not hungry for at least 41/2 hours. I usually eat small > amounts every two to three hours. My favorite quick supper in the sautee a > lot of veggies with protabella mushroom and then pour scrambled eggs over. > We get two meals from six eggs and I get now spikes. > My boyfriend (What other word can you use when 50 yrs. old? He’s hardly a > boy?) has high cholesterol and wouldn’t touch them for ages. The > information about diet here and my imporved well being have helped him to > see they aren’t the evil he thought they were. > c
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Excellent information Annette! (By the way, I’m glad you are able to keep posting. You are an assest to this group.) I know when I have an egg breakfast I’m not hungry for at least 41/2 hours. I usually eat small amounts every two to three hours. My favorite quick supper in the sautee a lot of veggies with protabella mushroom and then pour scrambled eggs over. We get two meals from six eggs and I get now spikes. My boyfriend (What other word can you use when 50 yrs. old? He’s hardly a boy?) has high cholesterol and wouldn’t touch them for ages. The information about diet here and my imporved well being have helped him to see they aren’t the evil he thought they were. c
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi there Memory, > Yes, I know they too have carbs… > If you mean that they have a lot of carbs, well, no, they don’t. In > fact they have only a small amount of carbs. > According to the information at: > http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/list_nut.pl > One 50g boiled egg contains only about 0.5g of carbohydrate. > Yet it provides around 324 kj of energy. Two eggs for breakfast > make a nice little start to the day, and are unlikely to cause any > rise in bg in a T2. Add a few fresh veges for fibre and vit C and > you’re set! > I’ve seen Quentin post that a common breakfast for *him* is some > scrambled eggs with a garden salad. I might be inclined to lay bets > that he thought that one out carefully for optimum benefit. > So where is the rest of the energy coming from? Proteins and fats. > They are much slower in being digested and release of energy, so > they not only don’t spike, but give a steady slow release for quite > some time. It’s the kind of food they were talking about when they > say "It sticks to your ribs", ie, you don’t feel hungry and tired > for quite a few hrs. > The one that worries some is the "fats" – which just happen to > include some dietary cholesterol. > In the same chart as given above, here’s a break down of just what > fats are in that 50g egg. > Lipids > Fatty acids, total saturated 1.6 g > Fatty acids, total monounsaturated 2.0 g > Fatty acids, total polyunsaturated 0.7 g > Cholesterol (note – in MILLIGRAMS!) 212 mg > There are a few undiferentiated other fats in there, but the amounts > are really tiny, so lets ignore them. > You may notice that the monounsaturated plus the polyunsaturated > oils exceed the total of the other two. > All up, you get about a maximum of 5 grams of fat per egg, and more > than half are the "good" ones. > There’s just one more thing that makes eggs a good choice – the > vitamins, minerals and flavinoids that they contain. Not a bad > little package. > Did you hear about the man who used to go to work on an egg? One > day it wouldn’t start, so he pulled out the yolk and it went all > wite. :-) > Speaking of the white, if you’re allergic to eggs, that’s the bit > that does it. > So eat your eggs, just remember – no little soldiers with them! > Annette
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> Evelyn, > The original warnings about eggs came from an organization that wanted > to promote cereals as the perfect food, not from the American Egg Board. > I eat 2 or more eggs per day and my cholesterol stays down as long as I > stay away from fat meats and sugars. > Budd
That makes sense to me, Budd! Thanks for mentioning it. Evelyn
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I believed the statements when they first came out myself. Then back when the truth in advertising laws ( which are still ignored on a regular basis) I gave the issue some thought and realized the cereal guys were out to make a bunch of bucks, if they could. I went to the store and bought a dozen eggs. <VBG> Budd – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > That makes sense to me, Budd! > Thanks for mentioning it. > Evelyn
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OOOPS!!! Forgot the link. . . <www.aeb.org> Everyone tells me my memory is slipping. Myself, I don’t know . . .I don’t remember. Budd – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I eat a lot of eggs, (like two a day) and my cholesterol is NOT high. They > satisfy my hunger and I like them. I read somewhere that eggs have gotten > a bum rap as far as the amount of cholesterol they contain. Aside from > eggs themselves, I have a belief about cholesterol that I would like to > express here. > First of all the link between blood cholesterol and diet has never been > really proven that well. The liver makes the cholesterol that is in the > blood. The link between high blood cholesterol and cardiovascular problems > is there, but there are other factors involved…. there is just not enough > we know about it, and the link between dietary cholesterol and blood > cholesterol is still fuzzy. > I have a friend who is a vegetarian and eats almost no dietary cholesterol. > The doctor just mentioned that hers is creeping up. > My father who is 90 and in good health, still drives, rides his bicycle > every day, digs a garden every year, shovels his own snow, etc. has had a > cholesterol level of over 300 for years and years. Other than high blood > cholesterol numbers, he is fine. The only time he feels sick is when the > doctor tries to make him take cholesterol lowering drugs. He has tried all > of them, and all give him severe muscle weakness and more. He absolutely > can’t take any of those drugs. His heart is in excellent shape and he > continues to be active. He hates pills of any kind, but recently began > taking a baby aspirin daily and a couple of vitamins. High cholesterol has > never harmed him. 90 is a good old age by anyones standards, and his > cholesterol has been over 300 for twenty years! > On the other hand, my mother, who ALWAYS had excellent cholesterol levels, > had a triple bypass and died at 82 of a heart attack. She was on her > second pacemaker and had had heart problems for several years before she > passed away. > So I think there is more to this than simply measuring ones blood > cholesterol or eating or not eating cholesterol containing foods. I am > going to keep on eating eggs. I think the whole cholesterol thing is bunk, > or at best partial knowledge. For me the diet enemy is carbohydrates. > Those I watch really well. I have to eat something, and eggs are easy, > satisfying, and don’t raise my blood glucose much. > Regards, > Evelyn
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Evelyn, The original warnings about eggs came from an organization that wanted to promote cereals as the perfect food, not from the American Egg Board. I eat 2 or more eggs per day and my cholesterol stays down as long as I stay away from fat meats and sugars. Budd – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I eat a lot of eggs, (like two a day) and my cholesterol is NOT high. They > satisfy my hunger and I like them. I read somewhere that eggs have gotten > a bum rap as far as the amount of cholesterol they contain. Aside from > eggs themselves, I have a belief about cholesterol that I would like to > express here. > First of all the link between blood cholesterol and diet has never been > really proven that well. The liver makes the cholesterol that is in the > blood. The link between high blood cholesterol and cardiovascular problems > is there, but there are other factors involved…. there is just not enough > we know about it, and the link between dietary cholesterol and blood > cholesterol is still fuzzy. > I have a friend who is a vegetarian and eats almost no dietary cholesterol. > The doctor just mentioned that hers is creeping up. > My father who is 90 and in good health, still drives, rides his bicycle > every day, digs a garden every year, shovels his own snow, etc. has had a > cholesterol level of over 300 for years and years. Other than high blood > cholesterol numbers, he is fine. The only time he feels sick is when the > doctor tries to make him take cholesterol lowering drugs. He has tried all > of them, and all give him severe muscle weakness and more. He absolutely > can’t take any of those drugs. His heart is in excellent shape and he > continues to be active. He hates pills of any kind, but recently began > taking a baby aspirin daily and a couple of vitamins. High cholesterol has > never harmed him. 90 is a good old age by anyones standards, and his > cholesterol has been over 300 for twenty years! > On the other hand, my mother, who ALWAYS had excellent cholesterol levels, > had a triple bypass and died at 82 of a heart attack. She was on her > second pacemaker and had had heart problems for several years before she > passed away. > So I think there is more to this than simply measuring ones blood > cholesterol or eating or not eating cholesterol containing foods. I am > going to keep on eating eggs. I think the whole cholesterol thing is bunk, > or at best partial knowledge. For me the diet enemy is carbohydrates. > Those I watch really well. I have to eat something, and eggs are easy, > satisfying, and don’t raise my blood glucose much. > Regards, > Evelyn
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Hi there Memory,
> Yes, I know they too have carbs…
If you mean that they have a lot of carbs, well, no, they don’t. In fact they have only a small amount of carbs. According to the information at: http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/list_nut.pl One 50g boiled egg contains only about 0.5g of carbohydrate. Yet it provides around 324 kj of energy. Two eggs for breakfast make a nice little start to the day, and are unlikely to cause any rise in bg in a T2. Add a few fresh veges for fibre and vit C and you’re set! I’ve seen Quentin post that a common breakfast for *him* is some scrambled eggs with a garden salad. I might be inclined to lay bets that he thought that one out carefully for optimum benefit. So where is the rest of the energy coming from? Proteins and fats. They are much slower in being digested and release of energy, so they not only don’t spike, but give a steady slow release for quite some time. It’s the kind of food they were talking about when they say "It sticks to your ribs", ie, you don’t feel hungry and tired for quite a few hrs. The one that worries some is the "fats" – which just happen to include some dietary cholesterol. In the same chart as given above, here’s a break down of just what fats are in that 50g egg. Lipids Fatty acids, total saturated 1.6 g Fatty acids, total monounsaturated 2.0 g Fatty acids, total polyunsaturated 0.7 g Cholesterol (note – in MILLIGRAMS!) 212 mg There are a few undiferentiated other fats in there, but the amounts are really tiny, so lets ignore them. You may notice that the monounsaturated plus the polyunsaturated oils exceed the total of the other two. All up, you get about a maximum of 5 grams of fat per egg, and more than half are the "good" ones. There’s just one more thing that makes eggs a good choice – the vitamins, minerals and flavinoids that they contain. Not a bad little package. Did you hear about the man who used to go to work on an egg? One day it wouldn’t start, so he pulled out the yolk and it went all wite. :-) Speaking of the white, if you’re allergic to eggs, that’s the bit that does it. So eat your eggs, just remember – no little soldiers with them! Annette
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Yes, I know they too have carbs… I know that many diabetics eat a lot of eggs. I really love them. They make an easy meal. I am on Lipitor and my chol has really gotten a lot better. Chol–155 Trigs–171 HDL–37 LDL–84 Dr. will take a new panel in Aug. Just how careful are you all in eating or not eating the eggs? So many times I have not eaten them because I feel they just aren’t good for my chol. I could eat the darn things every day and I would be very nice and very friendly..:) I do HAVE to put one in every time I make a chef salad. I don’t seem to be able to eat the salad without egg in it (plus my chicken..). Chickens make me very happy… Bless Memory
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> Yes, I know they too have carbs… I know that many diabetics eat a lot of > eggs. I really love them. They make an easy meal. I am on Lipitor and my > chol has really gotten a lot better. Chol–155 Trigs–171 HDL–37 > LDL–84 Dr. will take a new panel in Aug. Just how careful are you all > in eating or not eating the eggs? So many times I have not eaten them > because I feel they just aren’t good for my chol. I could eat the darn > things every day and I would be very nice and very friendly..:) I do HAVE > to put one in every time I make a chef salad. I don’t seem to be able to > eat the salad without egg in it (plus my chicken..). Chickens make me very > happy… Bless Memory
I got through periods of time where I’ll eat a boiled egg every morning. I sometimes put boiled eggs in salad and once or twice a year I’ll make egg salad. And I’ll occasionally make egg and peppers or a zucchini or spinach pie with eggs in it. I’m not a really big egg eater. — Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/
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> Yes, I know they too have carbs… I know that many diabetics eat a lot of > eggs. I really love them. They make an easy meal. I am on Lipitor and my > chol has really gotten a lot better. Chol–155 Trigs–171 HDL–37 > LDL–84 Dr. will take a new panel in Aug. Just how careful are you all > in eating or not eating the eggs? So many times I have not eaten them > because I feel they just aren’t good for my chol. I could eat the darn > things every day and I would be very nice and very friendly..:) I do HAVE > to put one in every time I make a chef salad. I don’t seem to be able to > eat the salad without egg in it (plus my chicken..). Chickens make me very > happy… Bless Memory
I eat a lot of eggs, (like two a day) and my cholesterol is NOT high. They satisfy my hunger and I like them. I read somewhere that eggs have gotten a bum rap as far as the amount of cholesterol they contain. Aside from eggs themselves, I have a belief about cholesterol that I would like to express here. First of all the link between blood cholesterol and diet has never been really proven that well. The liver makes the cholesterol that is in the blood. The link between high blood cholesterol and cardiovascular problems is there, but there are other factors involved…. there is just not enough we know about it, and the link between dietary cholesterol and blood cholesterol is still fuzzy. I have a friend who is a vegetarian and eats almost no dietary cholesterol. The doctor just mentioned that hers is creeping up. My father who is 90 and in good health, still drives, rides his bicycle every day, digs a garden every year, shovels his own snow, etc. has had a cholesterol level of over 300 for years and years. Other than high blood cholesterol numbers, he is fine. The only time he feels sick is when the doctor tries to make him take cholesterol lowering drugs. He has tried all of them, and all give him severe muscle weakness and more. He absolutely can’t take any of those drugs. His heart is in excellent shape and he continues to be active. He hates pills of any kind, but recently began taking a baby aspirin daily and a couple of vitamins. High cholesterol has never harmed him. 90 is a good old age by anyones standards, and his cholesterol has been over 300 for twenty years! On the other hand, my mother, who ALWAYS had excellent cholesterol levels, had a triple bypass and died at 82 of a heart attack. She was on her second pacemaker and had had heart problems for several years before she passed away. So I think there is more to this than simply measuring ones blood cholesterol or eating or not eating cholesterol containing foods. I am going to keep on eating eggs. I think the whole cholesterol thing is bunk, or at best partial knowledge. For me the diet enemy is carbohydrates. Those I watch really well. I have to eat something, and eggs are easy, satisfying, and don’t raise my blood glucose much. Regards, Evelyn
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My cockatiel did the same thing. She laid a clutch of 12 eggs & I let them sit for a month before I threw them out. She decided to lay another clutch which I left in there til she started ignoring them. From then on she would lay another clutch every 3 months or so… She kept that up for 5 years til she became eggbound & died, so keep your ‘tiel well supplied with calcium. In hindsight, if I had a bird like that now, I would place her in a breeding situation. Dont know if that answers any of your questions but I hope it helps! Kay
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>my 2 year-old cockatiel laid her first >eggs today. she’s the only bird i have, so >they’re infertile. i’ve been able to find >info on diet, eggbinding, etc., but >my question is: >any thoughts on how long i should leave
Hi, It’s often recommended that if a single female pet lays eggs, leave the eggs for the full incubation time (24 to 28 days I believe for teils) so they don’t recycle right away again. Have you thought about purchasing a male for her? It is likely she will continue to lay eggs, IME. I don’t know if there is any way to stop the cycle of laying in a single pet once it starts. I only have 3 tiels (one pair and an extra 2 yr old female), but the 2 yr old f. does not seem interested in egglaying. Hope someone with more tiel experience will answer your post. Constance
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> my 2 year-old cockatiel laid her first > eggs today. she’s the only bird i have, so > they’re infertile. i’ve been able to find > info on diet, eggbinding, etc., but > my question is: > any thoughts on how long i should leave > the eggs in the cage? she’s built a nest-like > thing in the back corner and is quite attentive. > i’m more worried about her feelings at this > point… > thanks in advance! > - karen
Hi, You’re best bet is to leave them there until she gets tired of them. Please make sure that you give her lots of calcium. Crushed oyster shells, cuttle bone, mineral block, iodine block and if her eggs are really soft, you may have to give her some liquid calcium but see a vet first before giving her the liquid to get the dosage. Too much calcium can also be bad for your bird. Good luck. — Denise Antler – BFBS Webmaster http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/5470/
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my 2 year-old cockatiel laid her first eggs today. she’s the only bird i have, so they’re infertile. i’ve been able to find info on diet, eggbinding, etc., but my question is: any thoughts on how long i should leave the eggs in the cage? she’s built a nest-like thing in the back corner and is quite attentive. i’m more worried about her feelings at this point… thanks in advance! - karen
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My cockatiel did the same thing. She laid a clutch of 12 eggs & I let them sit for a month before I threw them out. She decided to lay another clutch which I left in there til she started ignoring them. From then on she would lay another clutch every 3 months or so… She kept that up for 5 years til she became eggbound & died, so keep your ‘tiel well supplied with calcium. In hindsight, if I had a bird like that now, I would place her in a breeding situation. Dont know if that answers any of your questions but I hope it helps! Kay
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>my 2 year-old cockatiel laid her first >eggs today. she’s the only bird i have, so >they’re infertile. i’ve been able to find >info on diet, eggbinding, etc., but >my question is: >any thoughts on how long i should leave
Hi, It’s often recommended that if a single female pet lays eggs, leave the eggs for the full incubation time (24 to 28 days I believe for teils) so they don’t recycle right away again. Have you thought about purchasing a male for her? It is likely she will continue to lay eggs, IME. I don’t know if there is any way to stop the cycle of laying in a single pet once it starts. I only have 3 tiels (one pair and an extra 2 yr old female), but the 2 yr old f. does not seem interested in egglaying. Hope someone with more tiel experience will answer your post. Constance
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> my 2 year-old cockatiel laid her first > eggs today. she’s the only bird i have, so > they’re infertile. i’ve been able to find > info on diet, eggbinding, etc., but > my question is: > any thoughts on how long i should leave > the eggs in the cage? she’s built a nest-like > thing in the back corner and is quite attentive. > i’m more worried about her feelings at this > point… > thanks in advance! > - karen
Hi, You’re best bet is to leave them there until she gets tired of them. Please make sure that you give her lots of calcium. Crushed oyster shells, cuttle bone, mineral block, iodine block and if her eggs are really soft, you may have to give her some liquid calcium but see a vet first before giving her the liquid to get the dosage. Too much calcium can also be bad for your bird. Good luck. — Denise Antler – BFBS Webmaster http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/5470/
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my 2 year-old cockatiel laid her first eggs today. she’s the only bird i have, so they’re infertile. i’ve been able to find info on diet, eggbinding, etc., but my question is: any thoughts on how long i should leave the eggs in the cage? she’s built a nest-like thing in the back corner and is quite attentive. i’m more worried about her feelings at this point… thanks in advance! - karen
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My cockatiel did the same thing. She laid a clutch of 12 eggs & I let them sit for a month before I threw them out. She decided to lay another clutch which I left in there til she started ignoring them. From then on she would lay another clutch every 3 months or so… She kept that up for 5 years til she became eggbound & died, so keep your ‘tiel well supplied with calcium. In hindsight, if I had a bird like that now, I would place her in a breeding situation. Dont know if that answers any of your questions but I hope it helps! Kay
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>my 2 year-old cockatiel laid her first >eggs today. she’s the only bird i have, so >they’re infertile. i’ve been able to find >info on diet, eggbinding, etc., but >my question is: >any thoughts on how long i should leave
Hi, It’s often recommended that if a single female pet lays eggs, leave the eggs for the full incubation time (24 to 28 days I believe for teils) so they don’t recycle right away again. Have you thought about purchasing a male for her? It is likely she will continue to lay eggs, IME. I don’t know if there is any way to stop the cycle of laying in a single pet once it starts. I only have 3 tiels (one pair and an extra 2 yr old female), but the 2 yr old f. does not seem interested in egglaying. Hope someone with more tiel experience will answer your post. Constance
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> my 2 year-old cockatiel laid her first > eggs today. she’s the only bird i have, so > they’re infertile. i’ve been able to find > info on diet, eggbinding, etc., but > my question is: > any thoughts on how long i should leave > the eggs in the cage? she’s built a nest-like > thing in the back corner and is quite attentive. > i’m more worried about her feelings at this > point… > thanks in advance! > - karen
Hi, You’re best bet is to leave them there until she gets tired of them. Please make sure that you give her lots of calcium. Crushed oyster shells, cuttle bone, mineral block, iodine block and if her eggs are really soft, you may have to give her some liquid calcium but see a vet first before giving her the liquid to get the dosage. Too much calcium can also be bad for your bird. Good luck. — Denise Antler – BFBS Webmaster http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/5470/
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my 2 year-old cockatiel laid her first eggs today. she’s the only bird i have, so they’re infertile. i’ve been able to find info on diet, eggbinding, etc., but my question is: any thoughts on how long i should leave the eggs in the cage? she’s built a nest-like thing in the back corner and is quite attentive. i’m more worried about her feelings at this point… thanks in advance! - karen
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My cockatiel did the same thing. She laid a clutch of 12 eggs & I let them sit for a month before I threw them out. She decided to lay another clutch which I left in there til she started ignoring them. From then on she would lay another clutch every 3 months or so… She kept that up for 5 years til she became eggbound & died, so keep your ‘tiel well supplied with calcium. In hindsight, if I had a bird like that now, I would place her in a breeding situation. Dont know if that answers any of your questions but I hope it helps! Kay
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>my 2 year-old cockatiel laid her first >eggs today. she’s the only bird i have, so >they’re infertile. i’ve been able to find >info on diet, eggbinding, etc., but >my question is: >any thoughts on how long i should leave
Hi, It’s often recommended that if a single female pet lays eggs, leave the eggs for the full incubation time (24 to 28 days I believe for teils) so they don’t recycle right away again. Have you thought about purchasing a male for her? It is likely she will continue to lay eggs, IME. I don’t know if there is any way to stop the cycle of laying in a single pet once it starts. I only have 3 tiels (one pair and an extra 2 yr old female), but the 2 yr old f. does not seem interested in egglaying. Hope someone with more tiel experience will answer your post. Constance
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> my 2 year-old cockatiel laid her first > eggs today. she’s the only bird i have, so > they’re infertile. i’ve been able to find > info on diet, eggbinding, etc., but > my question is: > any thoughts on how long i should leave > the eggs in the cage? she’s built a nest-like > thing in the back corner and is quite attentive. > i’m more worried about her feelings at this > point… > thanks in advance! > - karen
Hi, You’re best bet is to leave them there until she gets tired of them. Please make sure that you give her lots of calcium. Crushed oyster shells, cuttle bone, mineral block, iodine block and if her eggs are really soft, you may have to give her some liquid calcium but see a vet first before giving her the liquid to get the dosage. Too much calcium can also be bad for your bird. Good luck. — Denise Antler – BFBS Webmaster http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/5470/
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my 2 year-old cockatiel laid her first eggs today. she’s the only bird i have, so they’re infertile. i’ve been able to find info on diet, eggbinding, etc., but my question is: any thoughts on how long i should leave the eggs in the cage? she’s built a nest-like thing in the back corner and is quite attentive. i’m more worried about her feelings at this point… thanks in advance! - karen
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My cockatiel did the same thing. She laid a clutch of 12 eggs & I let them sit for a month before I threw them out. She decided to lay another clutch which I left in there til she started ignoring them. From then on she would lay another clutch every 3 months or so… She kept that up for 5 years til she became eggbound & died, so keep your ‘tiel well supplied with calcium. In hindsight, if I had a bird like that now, I would place her in a breeding situation. Dont know if that answers any of your questions but I hope it helps! Kay
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>my 2 year-old cockatiel laid her first >eggs today. she’s the only bird i have, so >they’re infertile. i’ve been able to find >info on diet, eggbinding, etc., but >my question is: >any thoughts on how long i should leave
Hi, It’s often recommended that if a single female pet lays eggs, leave the eggs for the full incubation time (24 to 28 days I believe for teils) so they don’t recycle right away again. Have you thought about purchasing a male for her? It is likely she will continue to lay eggs, IME. I don’t know if there is any way to stop the cycle of laying in a single pet once it starts. I only have 3 tiels (one pair and an extra 2 yr old female), but the 2 yr old f. does not seem interested in egglaying. Hope someone with more tiel experience will answer your post. Constance
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> my 2 year-old cockatiel laid her first > eggs today. she’s the only bird i have, so > they’re infertile. i’ve been able to find > info on diet, eggbinding, etc., but > my question is: > any thoughts on how long i should leave > the eggs in the cage? she’s built a nest-like > thing in the back corner and is quite attentive. > i’m more worried about her feelings at this > point… > thanks in advance! > - karen
Hi, You’re best bet is to leave them there until she gets tired of them. Please make sure that you give her lots of calcium. Crushed oyster shells, cuttle bone, mineral block, iodine block and if her eggs are really soft, you may have to give her some liquid calcium but see a vet first before giving her the liquid to get the dosage. Too much calcium can also be bad for your bird. Good luck. — Denise Antler – BFBS Webmaster http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/5470/
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my 2 year-old cockatiel laid her first eggs today. she’s the only bird i have, so they’re infertile. i’ve been able to find info on diet, eggbinding, etc., but my question is: any thoughts on how long i should leave the eggs in the cage? she’s built a nest-like thing in the back corner and is quite attentive. i’m more worried about her feelings at this point… thanks in advance! - karen
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My cockatiel did the same thing. She laid a clutch of 12 eggs & I let them sit for a month before I threw them out. She decided to lay another clutch which I left in there til she started ignoring them. From then on she would lay another clutch every 3 months or so… She kept that up for 5 years til she became eggbound & died, so keep your ‘tiel well supplied with calcium. In hindsight, if I had a bird like that now, I would place her in a breeding situation. Dont know if that answers any of your questions but I hope it helps! Kay
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>my 2 year-old cockatiel laid her first >eggs today. she’s the only bird i have, so >they’re infertile. i’ve been able to find >info on diet, eggbinding, etc., but >my question is: >any thoughts on how long i should leave
Hi, It’s often recommended that if a single female pet lays eggs, leave the eggs for the full incubation time (24 to 28 days I believe for teils) so they don’t recycle right away again. Have you thought about purchasing a male for her? It is likely she will continue to lay eggs, IME. I don’t know if there is any way to stop the cycle of laying in a single pet once it starts. I only have 3 tiels (one pair and an extra 2 yr old female), but the 2 yr old f. does not seem interested in egglaying. Hope someone with more tiel experience will answer your post. Constance
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> my 2 year-old cockatiel laid her first > eggs today. she’s the only bird i have, so > they’re infertile. i’ve been able to find > info on diet, eggbinding, etc., but > my question is: > any thoughts on how long i should leave > the eggs in the cage? she’s built a nest-like > thing in the back corner and is quite attentive. > i’m more worried about her feelings at this > point… > thanks in advance! > - karen
Hi, You’re best bet is to leave them there until she gets tired of them. Please make sure that you give her lots of calcium. Crushed oyster shells, cuttle bone, mineral block, iodine block and if her eggs are really soft, you may have to give her some liquid calcium but see a vet first before giving her the liquid to get the dosage. Too much calcium can also be bad for your bird. Good luck. — Denise Antler – BFBS Webmaster http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/5470/
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my 2 year-old cockatiel laid her first eggs today. she’s the only bird i have, so they’re infertile. i’ve been able to find info on diet, eggbinding, etc., but my question is: any thoughts on how long i should leave the eggs in the cage? she’s built a nest-like thing in the back corner and is quite attentive. i’m more worried about her feelings at this point… thanks in advance! - karen
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My cockatiel did the same thing. She laid a clutch of 12 eggs & I let them sit for a month before I threw them out. She decided to lay another clutch which I left in there til she started ignoring them. From then on she would lay another clutch every 3 months or so… She kept that up for 5 years til she became eggbound & died, so keep your ‘tiel well supplied with calcium. In hindsight, if I had a bird like that now, I would place her in a breeding situation. Dont know if that answers any of your questions but I hope it helps! Kay
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>my 2 year-old cockatiel laid her first >eggs today. she’s the only bird i have, so >they’re infertile. i’ve been able to find >info on diet, eggbinding, etc., but >my question is: >any thoughts on how long i should leave
Hi, It’s often recommended that if a single female pet lays eggs, leave the eggs for the full incubation time (24 to 28 days I believe for teils) so they don’t recycle right away again. Have you thought about purchasing a male for her? It is likely she will continue to lay eggs, IME. I don’t know if there is any way to stop the cycle of laying in a single pet once it starts. I only have 3 tiels (one pair and an extra 2 yr old female), but the 2 yr old f. does not seem interested in egglaying. Hope someone with more tiel experience will answer your post. Constance
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> my 2 year-old cockatiel laid her first > eggs today. she’s the only bird i have, so > they’re infertile. i’ve been able to find > info on diet, eggbinding, etc., but > my question is: > any thoughts on how long i should leave > the eggs in the cage? she’s built a nest-like > thing in the back corner and is quite attentive. > i’m more worried about her feelings at this > point… > thanks in advance! > - karen
Hi, You’re best bet is to leave them there until she gets tired of them. Please make sure that you give her lots of calcium. Crushed oyster shells, cuttle bone, mineral block, iodine block and if her eggs are really soft, you may have to give her some liquid calcium but see a vet first before giving her the liquid to get the dosage. Too much calcium can also be bad for your bird. Good luck. — Denise Antler – BFBS Webmaster http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/5470/
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my 2 year-old cockatiel laid her first eggs today. she’s the only bird i have, so they’re infertile. i’ve been able to find info on diet, eggbinding, etc., but my question is: any thoughts on how long i should leave the eggs in the cage? she’s built a nest-like thing in the back corner and is quite attentive. i’m more worried about her feelings at this point… thanks in advance! - karen
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My cockatiel did the same thing. She laid a clutch of 12 eggs & I let them sit for a month before I threw them out. She decided to lay another clutch which I left in there til she started ignoring them. From then on she would lay another clutch every 3 months or so… She kept that up for 5 years til she became eggbound & died, so keep your ‘tiel well supplied with calcium. In hindsight, if I had a bird like that now, I would place her in a breeding situation. Dont know if that answers any of your questions but I hope it helps! Kay
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>my 2 year-old cockatiel laid her first >eggs today. she’s the only bird i have, so >they’re infertile. i’ve been able to find >info on diet, eggbinding, etc., but >my question is: >any thoughts on how long i should leave
Hi, It’s often recommended that if a single female pet lays eggs, leave the eggs for the full incubation time (24 to 28 days I believe for teils) so they don’t recycle right away again. Have you thought about purchasing a male for her? It is likely she will continue to lay eggs, IME. I don’t know if there is any way to stop the cycle of laying in a single pet once it starts. I only have 3 tiels (one pair and an extra 2 yr old female), but the 2 yr old f. does not seem interested in egglaying. Hope someone with more tiel experience will answer your post. Constance
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> my 2 year-old cockatiel laid her first > eggs today. she’s the only bird i have, so > they’re infertile. i’ve been able to find > info on diet, eggbinding, etc., but > my question is: > any thoughts on how long i should leave > the eggs in the cage? she’s built a nest-like > thing in the back corner and is quite attentive. > i’m more worried about her feelings at this > point… > thanks in advance! > - karen
Hi, You’re best bet is to leave them there until she gets tired of them. Please make sure that you give her lots of calcium. Crushed oyster shells, cuttle bone, mineral block, iodine block and if her eggs are really soft, you may have to give her some liquid calcium but see a vet first before giving her the liquid to get the dosage. Too much calcium can also be bad for your bird. Good luck. — Denise Antler – BFBS Webmaster http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/5470/
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my 2 year-old cockatiel laid her first eggs today. she’s the only bird i have, so they’re infertile. i’ve been able to find info on diet, eggbinding, etc., but my question is: any thoughts on how long i should leave the eggs in the cage? she’s built a nest-like thing in the back corner and is quite attentive. i’m more worried about her feelings at this point… thanks in advance! - karen
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My cockatiel did the same thing. She laid a clutch of 12 eggs & I let them sit for a month before I threw them out. She decided to lay another clutch which I left in there til she started ignoring them. From then on she would lay another clutch every 3 months or so… She kept that up for 5 years til she became eggbound & died, so keep your ‘tiel well supplied with calcium. In hindsight, if I had a bird like that now, I would place her in a breeding situation. Dont know if that answers any of your questions but I hope it helps! Kay
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>my 2 year-old cockatiel laid her first >eggs today. she’s the only bird i have, so >they’re infertile. i’ve been able to find >info on diet, eggbinding, etc., but >my question is: >any thoughts on how long i should leave
Hi, It’s often recommended that if a single female pet lays eggs, leave the eggs for the full incubation time (24 to 28 days I believe for teils) so they don’t recycle right away again. Have you thought about purchasing a male for her? It is likely she will continue to lay eggs, IME. I don’t know if there is any way to stop the cycle of laying in a single pet once it starts. I only have 3 tiels (one pair and an extra 2 yr old female), but the 2 yr old f. does not seem interested in egglaying. Hope someone with more tiel experience will answer your post. Constance
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> my 2 year-old cockatiel laid her first > eggs today. she’s the only bird i have, so > they’re infertile. i’ve been able to find > info on diet, eggbinding, etc., but > my question is: > any thoughts on how long i should leave > the eggs in the cage? she’s built a nest-like > thing in the back corner and is quite attentive. > i’m more worried about her feelings at this > point… > thanks in advance! > - karen
Hi, You’re best bet is to leave them there until she gets tired of them. Please make sure that you give her lots of calcium. Crushed oyster shells, cuttle bone, mineral block, iodine block and if her eggs are really soft, you may have to give her some liquid calcium but see a vet first before giving her the liquid to get the dosage. Too much calcium can also be bad for your bird. Good luck. — Denise Antler – BFBS Webmaster http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/5470/
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my 2 year-old cockatiel laid her first eggs today. she’s the only bird i have, so they’re infertile. i’ve been able to find info on diet, eggbinding, etc., but my question is: any thoughts on how long i should leave the eggs in the cage? she’s built a nest-like thing in the back corner and is quite attentive. i’m more worried about her feelings at this point… thanks in advance! - karen
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