dobe breeder in southern maryland?
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Skumikoo’ Very impressive. You were a flying waitress in 1968. That takes great skill and intelligence. Can you point out the emergency exit again? I notice you are proud to announce 5’10"…did you forget to include the 195 lbs? Manage a "million dollar a year company".. that would be a Macdonalds or Burger King, tubby? Lastly, you might not have driven this poor guy out yet, but you have been divorced,haven’t you, wind bag. I’m betting this "egineer" is plotting a way to escape your incessant nagging and preaching on his computer system as we speak. Probably take the dogs and 3/4 of a kid with him. You’ll be left with your memories of handing out peanuts and soda for Northwest 32 years and 75 pounds ago. Well, at least you’ll still have your winning personality! Stay out of the fries. Love, CWB
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I’m not sure who wrote the original message, but I’ve been told that a lot of pure bred dobes have been surrended to the Prince George’s Co. Humane Society. I have the orignal message sent to me about this if anyone wants more info.
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Nope! Not even close. :o) Former Flight Attd. and Model for Northwest Airlines, 5’10", married to a Computer Sys. Eginineer, I manage a multi-million dollar company, have 1 1/2 wonderful children, and only sleep with two dogs. Now, for the people you have offended…what’s your freakin’ excuse…cop wanna be? > Skumico, > You, on the other hand, have nothing but pearls of great wisdom which > you bless members of this NG with. I picture you as a grossly overweight > bitter divorced woman living in a trailer. No children and 5 or 6 dogs > that sleep in your bed. Close?
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Skumico, You, on the other hand, have nothing but pearls of great wisdom which you bless members of this NG with. I picture you as a grossly overweight bitter divorced woman living in a trailer. No children and 5 or 6 dogs that sleep in your bed. Close?
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>Skumico, >You, on the other hand, have nothing but pearls of great wisdom which >you bless members of this NG with. I picture you as a grossly overweight >bitter divorced woman living in a trailer. No children and 5 or 6 dogs >that sleep in your bed. Close?
C’mon, say "get a life." Say it!! You know you want to. Denna http://www.picantes.com/pitbull – The Real Pit Bull http://www.picantes.com/happythoughts – Pics from my exciting life http://www.picantes.com/windwolf – My art, pets, and twisted world view
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Dear Kumikunt, You still haven’t responded to the original question. You are a rude, ignorant bag of wind.
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Really DICK697, go back to trolling on your cop wannabe newsgroups. You obviously have nothing intelligent to offer here. Have a nice day! > Dear Kumikunt, > You still haven’t responded to the original question. You are a rude, > ignorant bag of wind.
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>RPBD Wind bags,
No, no, no! It’s WindWOLF! WindWOLF!! Sheesh, some people… *snip* > Please people, get a grip on yourselves!
Does this count the same as "get a life?" Do we still get points for that? Denna http://www.picantes.com/pitbull – The Real Pit Bull http://www.picantes.com/happythoughts – Pics from my exciting life http://www.picantes.com/windwolf – My art, pets, and twisted world view
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>> Instead, I’m called an Idiot, and people insinuate that I am in favor of >salsa that is made in New York City. New York City!?! But, I don’t likey > puppy mills and Back Yard Breeders. Nothing could be further from the >spam ball doggy that I have. I lick her sometimes. Taste goody!
Heeheehee!!! Oh TEERRRRIIIIIII, I think you’d better start tweening again soon, because if you don’t Christy will take away your Tween Queen title. ;-) Denna http://www.picantes.com/pitbull – The Real Pit Bull http://www.picantes.com/happythoughts – Pics from my exciting life http://www.picantes.com/windwolf – My art, pets, and twisted world view
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> RPBD Wind bags, > In my post, I never said anything that would REMOTELY indicate that I
have had any education, nor do I possess any reading comprehension skills. I > did not support responsibly breeding the best, healthiest and most
purdiest dogs, I just wanted to rag on other posters. Me likey the most > temperamentally sound dogs possible. My only point was that, as a long
winded blowhard hypocrite with nothing to contribute to the group so I’m a long > time RPDB lurker, it becomes awfully tiresome reading post after post
that I write. I guess I shouldn’t post at all, because you don’t want to read posts > from didactic know-it-all wind bags that have to lecture every person
that doesn’t agree with me! I don’t contribute information or help anyone > who asks a question. Read the original question. The woman wanted to be
a supermodel, but since this is a dog newsgroup, she asked to be > pointed towards a good breeder of Dobes; she didn’t say she wanted a dog
that was comprised of lumps of spam molded together. I did, and I bought one > for $50 bucks, she said she didn’t want to pay "a gazzillion dollars" .
Since I’m the only one who knows what a gazzillion is, and you don’t, > How do you know what she meant by that? What led you to believe that
a gazzillion is more than $50 bucks? Foolish humans. Probably thought that > she didn’t want a well bred healthy dog? > My point was that you simply answer her question in a civil manner.
Unlike the manner in which I post, which is as far from civil as possible. > Instead, I’m called an Idiot, and people insinuate that I am in favor of
salsa that is made in New York City. New York City!?! But, I don’t likey > puppy mills and Back Yard Breeders. Nothing could be further from the
spam ball doggy that I have. I lick her sometimes. Taste goody! Thats the > truth. When someone comes to the group and asks a question like this,
I certainly don’t answer, because I’d rather criticise than contribute. So > wouldn’t it be better to direct her to a good breeder rather than
face one of my nagging annoying posts berating you? God forbid you > lecture her in order to make yourselves feel Holier-than Thou. That
is MY JOB and I won’t allow you to take it. No wonder that > woman never came back. She may now go to a pet store or a BYB because
the thread was destroyed by my annnoying behavior. I know why > you people couldn’t act like human beings and answer her question.
Must be the same reason I can’t. My brain is in a jar in France. > Again, read my original post…where did I even hint that I didn’t
type using my chin? My pants smell like cheese. Oh, and I > support responsible breeding. I think it’s obvious to any neutral party
and anyone else that I have got to find a hobby. Its clear that I am the one > reading this thread who the IDIOT is. Please people, get a grip on
my ankles because I’m falling off the ledge! Oh, and I love you all. I kiss > yourselves!
Tweenyly yours, Christy
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Dear DICK697: You stated that the person was "looking for a pet…not a show dog". So, please tell us how the cost for responsible breeding regarding I don’t remember my vet testing the thyroid level on a rescue dog stating.."WAIT..that test is cheaper because it’s a "pet", not a show dog". So, for you to insinuate to the original poster that it is any different is irresponsible on your part. I also never saw you advise this person in your talented way regarding ethical dog breeding. Goodbye DICK697. Kumiko – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > RPBD Wind bags, > In my post, I never said anything that would REMOTELY indicate that I > did not support responsibly breeding the best, healthiest and most > temperamentally sound dogs possible. My only point was that, as a long > time RPDB lurker, it becomes awfully tiresome reading post after post > from didactic know-it-all wind bags that have to lecture every person > who asks a question. Read the original question. The woman wanted to be > pointed towards a good breeder of Dobes; she didn’t say she wanted a dog > for $50 bucks, she said she didn’t want to pay "a gazzillion dollars" . > How do you know what she meant by that? What led you to believe that > she didn’t want a well bred healthy dog? > My point was that you simply answer her question in a civil manner. > Instead, I’m called an Idiot, and people insinuate that I am in favor of > puppy mills and Back Yard Breeders. Nothing could be further from the > truth. When someone comes to the group and asks a question like this, > wouldn’t it be better to direct her to a good breeder rather than > lecture her in order to make yourselves feel Holier-than Thou. That > woman never came back. She may now go to a pet store or a BYB because > you people couldn’t act like human beings and answer her question. > Again, read my original post…where did I even hint that I didn’t > support responsible breeding. I think it’s obvious to any neutral party > reading this thread who the IDIOT is. Please people, get a grip on > yourselves!
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RPBD Wind bags, In my post, I never said anything that would REMOTELY indicate that I did not support responsibly breeding the best, healthiest and most temperamentally sound dogs possible. My only point was that, as a long time RPDB lurker, it becomes awfully tiresome reading post after post from didactic know-it-all wind bags that have to lecture every person who asks a question. Read the original question. The woman wanted to be pointed towards a good breeder of Dobes; she didn’t say she wanted a dog for $50 bucks, she said she didn’t want to pay "a gazzillion dollars" . How do you know what she meant by that? What led you to believe that she didn’t want a well bred healthy dog? My point was that you simply answer her question in a civil manner. Instead, I’m called an Idiot, and people insinuate that I am in favor of puppy mills and Back Yard Breeders. Nothing could be further from the truth. When someone comes to the group and asks a question like this, wouldn’t it be better to direct her to a good breeder rather than lecture her in order to make yourselves feel Holier-than Thou. That woman never came back. She may now go to a pet store or a BYB because you people couldn’t act like human beings and answer her question. Again, read my original post…where did I even hint that I didn’t support responsible breeding. I think it’s obvious to any neutral party reading this thread who the IDIOT is. Please people, get a grip on yourselves!
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: RE RE Gazillion dollar dog… : Please spare everyone your long winded self righteous bluster. Anyone : with an ounce of common sense would realize that she was merely looking : for a pet rather than a show dog. Some of you breeders want to turn : every post from a newbie into a forum to show the world what a : dedicated, sacrificing, wonderful human being you are. Now, can you : answer the womans question, or is it time for another lecture? : Remember, you’re just breeding dogs, try not to be so self- important. : It’s boorish Geeeeez so when my Doberman dropped dead of a heart attack at age two I shouldn’t have been bothered because after all he wasn’t a show dog he was "just a pet"? That’s a pretty hreatless attitude toward both dogs and people. I think breeders owe it to dogs and pet buyers to make every effort to raise healthy, fit dogs with stable appropriate temperaments. And I think pet buyers owe it to their dogs to support only breeders who care enough to work hard to produce healthy dogs that will stay in their homes. Pet buyers deserve breeders that care. Pet buyers deserve to know that such breeders exist. When I got involved in dog sports and in this group I had never even heard of a "responsible breeder." I had no idea that such existed. I did know better than getting a pet shop puppy. But I thought my remaining choices were "show dogs" or "home bred." I had no idea that there were any such things as breeders who paid attention to genetics. I thought I was limited to just seeing if the parent dogs were healthy. More than twenty years ago I made the mistake of breeding in which both parents eventually showed the crippling effects of serious hip displasia. One of them also was inappropriately sharp in temperament, at least for the pet home. Since we didn’t know any better we also didn’t track any of the puppies, nor did we make efforts to support the puppy buyers in making the placements a success. If statistics even remotely applied to that litter most of those puppies probably ended up in the pound by the time they were two. There were tweleve of them. The best I could say is that they were at least outwardly healthy and properly socialized. I haven’t been involved in breeding since. Well, excpet on the other end. That is cleaning up after breeders who didn’t know or didn’t care. I’ve been the one in the back room of the animal shelter staring in horror at barrel after barrel of beautiful dead dogs and cats – because some breeder decided that when it walked out of their lives it was not their concern and not their problem. I’ve been the one to listen to someone sobbing because their beloved PET is crippled by gentic disease, one that could have been avoided by intelligent breeding. Having been introduced to the concept of the responsible breeder, the person who actually cares about dogs, there is no way I’d ever ignore those qualities. Nor can I, as a dog lover, condone or support breeders who don’t bother about the future of the dogs they bring into this world. So count me in as a dog snob, the kind that believes in trying to make things better for dogs. But don’t look at my dogs as great breeding examples, as wonderful as they are they are all carelessly bred. But their breeders got no benefit from me. My dogs came from that sourse filled to overflowing with carelessly bred dogs, the animal shelter. If you love dogs I can’t imagine why you would, for a single second, do anything to promote breeding more crippled and poorly placed dogs. Diane Blackman Read the puppy reports http://www.dog-play.com/report.html – – - - - - - - – "Anytime we set about changing behavior because someone else things we should, we start out at a tremendous disadvantage. . . . if any aspect of the definition strikes us as untrue . . . our chances of effecting any permanent changes plummet. "The Body Language and Emotion of Dogs" by Myrna M. Milani, DVM.
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I agree Dobe rescue would be better. But most of the dogs don’t have 30 days. The city only gives them three. If you are an experienced owner and you see an animal you like on death row, I wouldn’t hesitate to take it back home. Again, the city pound has some beautiful and expensive dogs just 3 days away from death.
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Joe, Dobe rescue gets a lot of dogs out of the city pounds, but keep them longer than three days in order to evaluate temperament around people, children, other pets, etc. While understand the horrible situation of dogs in city pounds, it is not always easy to walk in and adopt a dog like the Doberman without knowing its background or atleast having its temperament evaluated by truly educated Doberman people. The Doberman rescue groups are always on hand to aid in helping the dogs fit into the family and are there if dogs/families don’t work out. It’s not the case with city pounds. Again, this is not to put down pounds. I’ve recently rescued a Dobe bitch from a pound that was confiscated in a drug bust. I had her for almost 30 days before placing her in order to fully evaluate her temperment. The placement was very successful and I doubt it would have been if adopted by an unexperienced Doberman person who had no idea how an abused dog would act. Sincerely, Kumiko Solaris Dobermans > I might add to also check the city pounds in your area. They have a lot of > full bred dogs of just about any breed and any kind of temperament you want. > Our city pound here in Houston keeps them 3 days and then sends them to the > gas chamber if no one wants them. A lot of beautiful dogs get killed > everyday just because they happened to be born. It’s really worth your time > to go and look.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> RE RE Gazillion dollar dog… > Please spare everyone your long winded self righteous bluster. Anyone > with an ounce of common sense would realize that she was merely looking > for a pet rather than a show dog. …. > Hmmm, most of that "long-winded self-righteous bluster" you are > referring to was related to the expense of health testing the parents > and relatives of the puppies. Are you trying to imply that *only* show > dogs should be healthy, and that prospective puppy purchasers shouldn’t > bother trying to find the healthiest, most temperamentally sound pet > possible? > I sure hope not. It costs pet owners just as much as it does anyone > else to replace hips or deal with epilepsy, allergies, thyroid or heart > problems, and it’s just as heartbreaking to watch a dog suffer from > these ailments, or even worse, have your beloved pet die at a young age > because of one of these problems. And it’s even more heartbreaking to > be forced to put down a dog with an untrustworthy temperament that is > otherwise perfectly healthy. > Of course this tested, carefully bred puppy is going to cost more, but > in the long run the purchase price is the LEAST amount you will spend on > your dog during the course of its lifetime. You get what you pay for, > and though you might find a breeder who will charge you $200 less than > the responsible breeder who actually cared about what he was producing > and tested his stock, in the long run this is very poor economy. You > are taking a real risk that you are going to pay out ten times more than > that in vet bills on a puppy from untested parents, not to mention the > risk that you may be forced to put your "bargain" down or have it drop > dead in front of you for health reasons. > Remember, you’re just breeding dogs, try not to be so self- important. > I’m no breeder, I’m a rescuer of the dogs produced by the careless > breeders who sell puppies cheaply. And let me tell you, that it’s bad > enough when I as a rescuer am forced to put a dog down because it’s > crippled from dysplasia or have it drop dead in front of me from > cardio. I want to do everything I can to prevent some nice family from > living through the same nightmare. > And if that’s a boorish stance well, TFB.
I second everything Lisa Ochoa wrote! The number of dobes that are NOT rescued in the Bay Area or California, for that matter, is obscene. Many of these dobes have OBVIOUS temperament problems and/or health problems that rescue simply cannot afford to take on. If we did, we’d be broke in no time. eventually shares a brunt of the financial responsibility for these badly bred dogs (in the end) when they are dumped at local pounds/shelters/etc? — (replace "dot" to email)
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I might add to also check the city pounds in your area. They have a lot of full bred dogs of just about any breed and any kind of temperament you want. Our city pound here in Houston keeps them 3 days and then sends them to the gas chamber if no one wants them. A lot of beautiful dogs get killed everyday just because they happened to be born. It’s really worth your time to go and look.
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Re: gazzilion dollar dog: most responsible, dedicated, knowledgeable breeders are not trying (or even hoping) to make money from breeding, but admittedly most would like to break even (or almost). Realize that the costs of breeding are a lot more than you would think. First of all, before anything (aside from getting objective evaluations of the bitch as being breedworthy), there are a host of medical tests performed (OFA–hip dysplasia; thyroid; VetGen or Genesearch–von Willdebrand’s disease, a clotting disorder; not to mention bruccelosis) to maximize the chances of having healthy puppies. Then comes the search for the best possible sire–one who also rates well on the tests, and preferably has proven himself as a stud–he has thrown good pups. Typically, the bitch travels to the dog to be bred (add in plane fare, and/or hotel for owner is s/he goes with the bitch), so there is one large fee in addition to the stud fee. Vet checkups during pregnancy, special feeding for the pregnant bitch; a vet visit shortly after whelping (tails must be docked with 1-2 days of birth); vet checkups of bitch and puppies; puppy immunizations; extra food for the nursing bitch and then, once the puppies are weaned, highly nutritious food for the puppies. At about 7-9 weeks, the ears are done, and this is another extra added price. All this does not, of course, take into account the many hours daily spent in interacting with (socializing) the puppies so they are ready to bond with their special humans. Great post, Avrama. You were kind enough not to even mention having the Dobes in question evaluated structurally. The cost of finishing a dog to his/her Championship may figure into the price also. :-) Carol
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> RE RE Gazillion dollar dog… > Please spare everyone your long winded self righteous bluster. Anyone > with an ounce of common sense would realize that she was merely looking > for a pet rather than a show dog. ….
Hmmm, most of that "long-winded self-righteous bluster" you are referring to was related to the expense of health testing the parents and relatives of the puppies. Are you trying to imply that *only* show dogs should be healthy, and that prospective puppy purchasers shouldn’t bother trying to find the healthiest, most temperamentally sound pet possible? I sure hope not. It costs pet owners just as much as it does anyone else to replace hips or deal with epilepsy, allergies, thyroid or heart problems, and it’s just as heartbreaking to watch a dog suffer from these ailments, or even worse, have your beloved pet die at a young age because of one of these problems. And it’s even more heartbreaking to be forced to put down a dog with an untrustworthy temperament that is otherwise perfectly healthy. Of course this tested, carefully bred puppy is going to cost more, but in the long run the purchase price is the LEAST amount you will spend on your dog during the course of its lifetime. You get what you pay for, and though you might find a breeder who will charge you $200 less than the responsible breeder who actually cared about what he was producing and tested his stock, in the long run this is very poor economy. You are taking a real risk that you are going to pay out ten times more than that in vet bills on a puppy from untested parents, not to mention the risk that you may be forced to put your "bargain" down or have it drop dead in front of you for health reasons. > Remember, you’re just breeding dogs, try not to be so self- important.
I’m no breeder, I’m a rescuer of the dogs produced by the careless breeders who sell puppies cheaply. And let me tell you, that it’s bad enough when I as a rescuer am forced to put a dog down because it’s crippled from dysplasia or have it drop dead in front of me from cardio. I want to do everything I can to prevent some nice family from living through the same nightmare. And if that’s a boorish stance well, TFB. — Lisa Ochoa, Proprietor, Ochoa’s House of Dog Toys Home of Archie, CGC (8yo Doberman/Torpedo); Oliver, CD, NA, FM, CGC, TDI, 1/3 CDX (TMWDITW – 10yo BC); Nell, CGC (Gorgeous 9yo Lady Whippet); Ripley, CD, FDCH, CGC (3yo BC Wonder Pup); Luke, CGC (3yo BC Extraordinaire); "It takes brains to understand a smart remark, but none to be offended by it." (Miss Know-It-All, BC Comic Strip, 1/27/99)
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>Anyone >with an ounce of common sense would realize that she was merely looking >for a pet rather than a show dog.
Anyone with half an ounce of common sense would realize that families deserve to have healthy, sound pets of good temperament. I consider health certifications even MORE important for family pets. And showing in conformation, obedience, ability, tracking, Schutzhund, etc provides evidence of a sound, structurally correct, intelligent, trainable dog or good temperament. Don’t pet owners deserve that?
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Beth, If you aren’t able to invest a large sum of money in a well bred dog, may I suggest looking into Doberman rescue around your area. There are some super loving dogs in need of good homes and they are so thankful for any love they get. I’ve placed two rescue dobes in the last month and spent last night doing recheck home visits. Both were doing beautifully and the families couldn’t be happier if they were from Champion dogs. You will probably pay an adoption fee similiar to a newspaper ad puppy, but you would be saving a life and not contributing to backyard breeding. It is a fact that most Dobes relingquished to rescue are from breeders that run ads in the newspapers and then refuse the dog when help is needed or isn’t available to answer the new owners questions. The rescue group will always be there to answer any questions or concerns and will help you in every way possible to make certain the right match is made for you and your family. DO NOT think that you have to have a puppy to bond with your family. My own show dog came to us when she was 3 and is the most loving dog we’ve ever had. They know they’ve been saved! You will find several rescue lisings, including DARE in your area, by just typing in Doberman Rescue at Yahoo Search. Good luck and let the list know if there is anything else we can do. Kumiko Solaris Dobermans – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi all, > Just a quick question. Does anyone know of a doberman pinscher > breeder in the southern maryland area? Interested in a nice, healthy > black and rust female pup as a pet- don’t plan to show. Got some names > and numbers from the dobe club of America, but the response I have > received from the breeders listed has been disappointing. I am not > interested in a gazzillion dollar dog. Any info appreciated. I am > new to this area and don’t want to take a chance buying a pup from a > newspaper ad. I have owned a dobe before (they can be downright silly > dogs!) and a rottie (hugable and loyal - lost her last May) and the > house is too quiet without one. > Thanks, > Beth > Before you buy.
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And you’re an IDIOT! I guess you don’t think a "pet" dog deserves the same consideration for health testing as the "show" dogs do???? What a "pet" dog, you don’t think that one dime should be spent in evaluation of quality temperament. Let me tell you something, showing a dog horribly expensive. But it’s _not_ near as expensive as the health testing generation after generation to guard against genetic problems. Tell the person who lost a dog to sudden Cardio, Wobblers, or bled to death from Vwd that is was just a "pet" dog and not a show dog, so expensive testing wasn’t neccessary. guarantee regarding any type of genetic health problem on my future puppies regardless of being pets or show puppies. I want a person to know that I’ve taken the time, energy and money to provide them a dog that had a fantastic chance of living a full and long life by being completely sound in body and mind. Plus, I guarantee that if for some reason the dog doesn’t turn out to live that life with them, they are always able to return the dog to me at any point in time…even if it’s ten years down the road. Try finding that in your stupid classified Kumiko > RE RE Gazillion dollar dog… > Please spare everyone your long winded self righteous bluster. Anyone > with an ounce of common sense would realize that she was merely looking > for a pet rather than a show dog. Some of you breeders want to turn > every post from a newbie into a forum to show the world what a > dedicated, sacrificing, wonderful human being you are. Now, can you > answer the womans question, or is it time for another lecture? > Remember, you’re just breeding dogs, try not to be so self- important. > It’s boorish
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RE RE Gazillion dollar dog… Please spare everyone your long winded self righteous bluster. Anyone with an ounce of common sense would realize that she was merely looking for a pet rather than a show dog. Some of you breeders want to turn every post from a newbie into a forum to show the world what a dedicated, sacrificing, wonderful human being you are. Now, can you answer the womans question, or is it time for another lecture? Remember, you’re just breeding dogs, try not to be so self- important. It’s boorish
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Hi all, Just a quick question. Does anyone know of a doberman pinscher breeder in the southern maryland area? Interested in a nice, healthy black and rust female pup as a pet- don’t plan to show. Got some names and numbers from the dobe club of America, but the response I have received from the breeders listed has been disappointing. I am not interested in a gazzillion dollar dog. Any info appreciated. I am new to this area and don’t want to take a chance buying a pup from a newspaper ad. I have owned a dobe before (they can be downright silly dogs!) and a rottie (hugable and loyal - lost her last May) and the house is too quiet without one. Thanks, Beth Before you buy.
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> Hi all, > Just a quick question. Does anyone know of a doberman pinscher > breeder in the southern maryland area? Interested in a nice, healthy > black and rust female pup as a pet- don’t plan to show. Got some names > and numbers from the dobe club of America, but the response I have > received from the breeders listed has been disappointing. I am not > interested in a gazzillion dollar dog.
Re: gazzilion dollar dog: most responsible, dedicated, knowledgeable breeders are not trying (or even hoping) to make money from breeding, but admittedly most would like to break even (or almost). Realize that the costs of breeding are a lot more than you would think. First of all, before anything (aside from getting objective evaluations of the bitch as being breedworthy), there are a host of medical tests performed (OFA–hip dysplasia; thyroid; VetGen or Genesearch–von Willdebrand’s disease, a clotting disorder; not to mention bruccelosis) to maximize the chances of having healthy puppies. Then comes the search for the best possible sire–one who also rates well on the tests, and preferably has proven himself as a stud–he has thrown good pups. Typically, the bitch travels to the dog to be bred (add in plane fare, and/or hotel for owner is s/he goes with the bitch), so there is one large fee in addition to the stud fee. Vet checkups during pregnancy, special feeding for the pregnant bitch; a vet visit shortly after whelping (tails must be docked with 1-2 days of birth); vet checkups of bitch and puppies; puppy immunizations; extra food for the nursing bitch and then, once the puppies are weaned, highly nutritious food for the puppies. At about 7-9 weeks, the ears are done, and this is another extra added price. All this does not, of course, take into account the many hours daily spent in interacting with (socializing) the puppies so they are ready to bond with their special humans. Have you thought about contacting Dobe rescue? Unfortunately, there are always Dobes needing homes, and ready and eager to trade boundless love for some TLC. You can get the addresses of nearby rescue groups to you by going to the DPCA web page (www.dpca.org)_ and following the leads to COPE (the Committee on Population Expansion). I know that DARE (the Dobe rescue group that covers Maryland) has a number of nice dogs and bitches available. avrama & ? Any info appreciated. I am – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> new to this area and don’t want to take a chance buying a pup from a > newspaper ad. I have owned a dobe before (they can be downright silly > dogs!) and a rottie (hugable and loyal - lost her last May) and the > house is too quiet without one. > Thanks, > Beth > Before you buy.
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